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  Joseph and his brothers
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  mensch
menschmenscheisenbahn
 

 

























   Illustration 1)
Joseph, Max and Harry, three 40-year-old triplets, are sitting on a symmetrical barrier fence relative to each other at rest. There is also a clock on each pair of scissors.


   Illustration 2) Joseph flies left and right at 49.5% speed of light for 5 years this pulls Harry to the right. After 5 years Joseph turns around and flies back 5 years and Harry also pulls back. Joseph was on the road for 10 years. 5 years there, 5 years back.

   Illustration 3) When all three brothers came back, they were in peace and relative to one another compare their ages. 10 years have passed for Joseph. He is 50 years old. How old have his brothers Harry and Max gotten and what do all the clocks show now?

Can you nail Max to a universal master centre line of the universe? No, you can't, because the universe is not a wall with a centre line to which you can pin someone. And yet Max always remains at the centre of his two brothers, regardless of how the scissors grid moves.

Joseph become 50 years old. How old did Max and Harry become?
 
   After there has been only one trip, there can be only one answer. Other points of view from external observers during the entire action are irrelevant, as all brothers in the end calmly compare their ages and all clocks relative to one another.



newton        Newton's calculation:

     All brothers have reached 50 years of age.   

     The speed between all the neighbouring clocks was the same.
     All clocks show that 10 years have passed.   
       
     





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einstein






                          

                                                   



Space and time are sitting in a cafĂ© drinking orange juice.   
"Attention, attention," says space, "a photon is flying by at c,   
 it must not see us like this. You dilate immediately and I contract immediately."   
"Calm down," says time, "stay relaxed on the stool, because that's not a photon with v = c at all, but Josef with his rocket with v = 0.495 c. He won't blow us off our feet with such a snail's pace". By chance, Einstein comes along and says: "Mistake, because if c is absolute for you, then all subdivisions of c are also absolute for you, including snails" - "But the mathematicians only calculate c as absolute?" - "Don't listen to the mathematicians" Einstein says to them, "listen to the physicists. Since the mathematicians have fallen over the theory of relativity, I no longer understand it myself."

Relative to space and time, every speed is absolute.


Henry Toothbiter has cracked the nut!
loesung
Those who believe that velocities must also be calculated relativistically can do so, even if it is wrong.
The basic problem of the brothers with the relation to the clock at the main station (clock Hbf) is not solved by this.



  What? Josef and Harry moved relative to each other with v = 0.99 c and still grew to the same age? A mirror symmetry in the movements? Henry Teeth Biter, have you nailed Max to the absolute centre line of the universe? But yes, you are right, Max will always remain at the centre of his brothers, whatever happens to the scissors grid in consequence. Even if you shoot it across the entire universe.

The velocities of all brothers and clocks are always constant relative to each other. Space and time adapt to them through contraction and dilation. With whatever speed objects move relative to each other, space and time adjust to them, because both are always relative, otherwise c would not be absolute. Not only photons cause space and time to contract and dilate, but also snails. The fact that external observers observe something different is meaningless for the absolute velocities of the individual objects relative to each other.    




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   Neither space nor time, no biological ageing process, no clocks, no Lorentz factor and no Minkowski diagram, not even the triplets themselves could screw one of their number into absolute rest. The universe is not a wall where you can screw in screws.Indeed, it could just as well have been that the scissors were not screwed to the ground, but to a railway that started from the main station (clock Hbf) and travelled half the time to the left and then to the right again during the entire action with v = 0.495.  To be or not to be? Neither the principle of relativity nor the SRT recognise any difference.

If the brothers bounce a ball up into the air and catch it again, can they tell from the trajectory of the ball whether a train is moving or not?  No, neither they nor the principle of relativity nor the SRT can tell from the trajectory of the ball.

The Minkowski diagram does not have an answer either, because before you draw the diagram, you have to determine yourself who is the one at rest and who are the ones in motion. This is a circular argument, because in the end the diagram only shows as the one at rest the one you have previously determined yourself.   




Schrödinger's horse-drawn railway? 
Does it gallop or does it not gallop?


Max proposes an experiment to his brothers. We all attach a mirror to our helmet and send a beam of light to each other's mirrors. Based on the running time and the colour of the reflected light, we can tell whether the railway is moving or at rest. The same experiment could be done by inmates on the railway. "That was a good one," Josef and Harry say to Max, "do you see anyone else besides yourself who isn't laughing at it?

If the brothers bounce a ball up into the air and catch it again, can they tell from the trajectory of the ball whether a train is moving or not?  No, neither they nor the principle of relativity nor the SRT can tell from the trajectory of the ball.

 
 The principle of relativity and also the SRT have no answer to the question of whether the railway is moving or not. They consider both variants to be one and the same.


eisenbahn





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She canters - and canters not!

Both variants are equal. If they were not equal, one would already have to take into account in the variant without the railway the speed with which the scissors grid moves with the Earth around the Sun, the movement of the solar system within the Milky Way and, of course, the movement of the Milky Way within the universe.



How old have the triplets become and what do all the clocks show?

Since there has only been one journey and both the principle of relativity and the SRT do not recognise any difference between whether the railway is travelling or not, there can only be one answer for both variants.

With variant 1 (without railway), the clock at the main station (Hbf) shows after the journey that 11.51 years have passed, just as with clock 0, with which it was at rest relative to each other.

What does HBf show in variant 2 (with railway)? Does it show that 10 years have passed, just as with clock 6, with which it was at rest relative to each other, - or does Hbf show that 60.1 years have passed, because Josef spent 10 years own time and he moved with v = 0.99 c relative to Hbf?    There can only be one answer.

What does Hbf show in variant 2 (with railway)? Does it show that 10 years have passed, just as with clock 6, with which it was at rest relative to each other, - or does Hbf show that 60.1 years have
passed because Josef was on the move for 10 years of his own time and he was moving with v = 0.99 c relative to Hbf?   
beisserThere can only be one answer.

Who turned the clock, is it really that late already?
Henry Teethbite after his first attempt to crack the nut.


einstein









  Note on acceleration and deceleration: If you are sitting in a train and are suddenly pushed into the chair, you cannot determine whether you are sitting in the direction of travel and the train is accelerating or whether you are sitting against the direction of travel and the train is decelerating. Acceleration and deceleration are not a measure of rest and motion in space and time and are therefore assumed to be instantaneous and thus not taken into account.

   Note on the mechanics of the scissors grid: With the scissors grid, it is roughly the same as with the drift velocity of the electrons in an electric circuit. The speed of the electrons of v = 0.5 mm per second causes almost the speed of light of the electric circuit. Just as only the neighbouring electrons keep the entire electric circuit in motion, only the neighbouring scissors keep the entire scissor grid in motion.